Dark Dynasties

The British Royal Family: When Marrying for Love Isn’t an Option (Part 2)

Episode Summary

We’re talking tampongate, King Charles III’s infidelity, Prince Andrew’s sex tourism, and Princess Diana’s divorce settlement. Time and time again, royal romance isn’t coming up roses.

Episode Notes

We’re talking tampongate, King Charles III’s infidelity, Prince Andrew’s sex tourism, and Princess Diana’s divorce settlement. Time and time again, royal romance isn’t coming up roses.

This podcast contains sensitive information about violence, sexual assault, and domestic abuse.

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Episode Transcription

SYD 0:00

This podcast is intended for mature audiences episodes discuss

emotional, physical and sexual violence listener discretion is

advised.

Welcome to dark dynasties, the podcast where we focus on different

rich and powerful families who have ultimately expose themselves to be

corrupt. Messed up and well, very dark.

OLIVIA 0:24

This episode we'll be talking about maybe the most famous family ever

loyal family,

SYD 0:29

as in the Windsors

OLIVIA 0:30

we've seen their ups and downs, victories and defeats, and scandals,

SYD 0:34

a lot of scandals.

I'm Syd.

OLIVIA 0:36

And I'm Olivia. And this episode is about the British royal families

corruption affairs and scandals.

SYD 0:42

You're listening

to Dark Dynasties

OLIVIA 0:52

the royal family and relationship drama they go together like peanut

butter and chocolate right? Yeah, they

SYD 0:59

go they go together in a lot of different ways. We're going to be

going into all of this specific relationship drama.

OLIVIA 1:05

Yeah,

we're gonna be getting into a lot of funny specifics and relationship

drama.

 

SYD 1:09

Last episode, we talked about the family's relationship to Nazis. And

yeah, there was a lot of stuff there stuff there. But first, we do

want to acknowledge the more international scandals surrounding this

family like apartheid, colonialism, war crimes, and just in general a

horrifying list of atrocities as colonizers.

OLIVIA 1:32

Well, this podcast episode will be more specifically focused on more

of their personal scandals. Obviously, there are scandals that have

affected their nation as well as other nations that everyone in charge

should be held accountable for. So just that's our little disclaimer.

Yeah, talking about some silly things here and there and you're like,

Guys, what about all of the actual really apartheid? Yeah, no, that's

that is that's your valid? Yeah. So valid

SYD 1:57

when you think of royal family relationship drama. Do you just think

of Charles and Camilla?

OLIVIA 2:03

That's usually the first thing I think of.

SYD 2:04

Yeah.

So just a quick note, let's

OLIVIA 2:07

do a quick recap. I feel like there's certain people, many people in

the world do know but if there's a certain group of people in the

world that don't know what tampon gate is,

SYD 2:17

yeah, Charles was cheating on his wife at the time. The

OLIVIA 2:21

wonderful Lady Di.

SYD 2:22

Yeah, well, we love Di.

OLIVIA 2:23

I love Diana. Charles, apparently loved her less than we love her. He

was not feeling it.

SYD 2:31

And the Queen knew Oh, yeah, people were pretty aware.

OLIVIA 2:35

 

And so he's cheating with another woman who is married Camilla, during

this whole scandal that broke down that showed, you know, oh, he's

cheating on Diana with Camilla. There were recorded phone calls

between Charles and Camilla

SYD 2:47

Referred to as "tampongate."

OLIVIA 2:51

So they're having these sexy conversations, and it's all being

recorded,

SYD 2:55

like, Oh, I wish I were next to you. Like, they're

OLIVIA 2:58

like, oh, I want to go up and down and in and out of you like this,

like all very that. She's like, but at a certain point, he says, you

know, like, gosh, and this is all paraphrasing, but he says like,

Gosh, I wish I could just live in your trousers. Because wouldn't that

be easier? That's not something I would ever wish. No, I wouldn't ever

wish anyone I mean, I don't even really like wearing pants because I

think they're constricting already. If there was a full adult man

inside a pair of pants somewhere and lived there, I would just only

wear dresses.

SYD 3:28

So this man in a sexy way says God, I wish I lived inside your pants.

Yeah.

OLIVIA 3:33

And she's like, Oh, what if you were you know, reincarnated into a

pair of my underwear. Like, what if you came back as a pair of my

underwear and then he says, Oh God, or what if I was a Tampax? Just my

luck, right? Haha. What if I was a Tampax?

SYD 3:48

This is really frightening

OLIVIA 3:49

now that obviously, it was not meant to be shared with the world. No

is meant to be private. Yeah, sometimes when you're having a dirty

talk session with someone you try something out and it does not work.

And that sucks. When that has been recorded and shown to the entire

world. Yeah, let the guy cheat on his wife and let the terrible guy

cheat on his nice wife and peace. But that Tampax reference him being

like, I want to be your tampon Loki was the piece of gold that no one

could let go of in the media. It's crazy. If you say that and your

royalty, they're never gonna let that go. So hence the name

 

SYD 4:27

tampon gate. Yeah, it was one of those things where he thought he was

being sexy at some point. It wasn't

OLIVIA 4:33

just took a hard left into that's not sexy anymore. And you know, I

think that that happens sometimes. So

SYD 4:38

that leads us into a segment called It's Sexy Until It Isn't.

OLIVIA 4:46

We're going to share some pickup lines that start off as sexy and then

veer into hard tampongate territory by not being sexy at all. Okay,

I'll go first. Okay. God your ass is so perfect. I just want to be

your diapie.

SYD 5:03

Yeah, I would say that that is hard left. I'm gonna give the first

part a 10 right first sentence. Yeah, second sentence I'm going to

give three. Okay, amazing. Here's what your face is so pretty. I wish

I could cut it off and wear it on my face.

OLIVIA 5:20

Yeah,

that's not that's just go straight to

SYD 5:22

Sure. Are you sure you don't like it? Okay, God, I thought this was

the day I'd win you over

OLIVIA 5:27

what about

like, oh, I can't stop thinking about your body or the fact that I'm

gonna go to Chili's later.

SYD 5:34

I actually give that whole thing at 10

OLIVIA 5:36

Okay, I mean that that would just be someone being honest about their

thoughts.

SYD 5:38

Yeah, I

think I think it's important for there to be a level of honesty

 

OLIVIA 5:41

and someone

sharing their excitement to go to Chili's later on top of their dirty

talk

SYD 5:45

and you know I'm excited for them because the quesadilla salad is

facing

OLIVIA 5:49

the quesadilla

salad is the the least sexy phrase I've ever fucking heard

SYD 5:53

and my you know well the food also kind of within it like the the menu

items sounds like what it's going to give you later

OLIVIA 5:59

it sounds like it sounds like it's gonna give you a case explosion

explosive diarrhea. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so Wow, I

SYD 6:06

can't believe we said the words explosive diarrhea in the sexy

segment. Yeah,

OLIVIA 6:10

give me another sexy pickup line Syd.

SYD 6:12

I love your lips. Oh,

I wish I was your cold sore.

OLIVIA 6:17

Oh, yeah. No that that that did it for me.

SYD 6:19

Did it do it? Great. That was that gives you a lady erection. Yeah,

absolutely. Okay.

OLIVIA 6:24

Oh, your breasts are so huge. Now. I must check them for lumps.

SYD 6:29

I think that's actually great.

OLIVIA 6:31

Okay, well, you like mine too much. You like all my pitches too much.

 

They're supposed to be awful. I'm fighting so many positives because

that's amazing.

SYD 6:39

Because you know, people should help each other out and check for true

OLIVIA 6:43

it's not sexy, but it is helpful. It's helpful and it's good and

sometimes that's more important and helpful than being sexy. Okay, how

about this? Oh, your hair

SYD 6:51

is so sexy. I want to make a teddy bear out of it and fuck it until I

die

OLIVIA 6:56

A 10

out of 10 There's nothing wrong with you. Okay, perfect. And that was

a segment call it's sexy until it isn't

SYD 7:10

sponsored by the quesadilla explosion salad. It's an explosion

OLIVIA 7:15

it's an explosion that'll give you an explosion later.

SYD 7:18

But don't let tampon gate distract you from everything else. You're

gonna have a lot a lot

OLIVIA 7:23

of weird scandals. You've got some cradle robbing that gardeners

cradle robbing a gardener cradle rubbing a garden out when when you

when a gardener is in a cradle and you rob that cradle. Wow. Yeah, we

got a bunch. We've got sex tours. We've got we've got a lot of we got

a lot of stuff.

SYD 7:40

Here's something that's not really cute.

OLIVIA 7:42

Oh, here's

a throwback scandal. Yeah,

SYD 7:44

this was a good throwback.

OLIVIA 7:46

 

Okay, this

is one of the earliest scandals we'll be talking about on this

specific episode. Yeah.

SYD 7:50

Last episode, we talked about George the fifth. I'm sure you guys

remember.

OLIVIA 7:54

He's the guy who was like, I never wanted to be king. I am best

friends with my cousin Nicolas. And I am going to let him die and be

killed by the Bolsheviks because I'm not going to let him into England

because I don't want to seem pro Germany.

SYD 8:08

Yeah, he was

the king. He had a lot of kids he had like, I think six six.

OLIVIA 8:12

He had six kids with his dead brother's fiancee. Yeah,

SYD 8:15

you know, that'll do that. how

OLIVIA 8:17

that goes. But one of the kids was Prince Edward a Nazi. Sure. Just

thrown that in there again, last episode,

SYD 8:23

and one of the kids will probably be somebody you haven't really heard

of. Right. Right. Right. And that person is Prince John. Right, Prince

John. So when Prince John was 11 years old, he was moved from his home

and effectively vanished from the public eye. No one saw him ever

again.

OLIVIA 8:38

No one's and you might be going like Prince John. That's interesting.

I don't really know a bunch of royal figures with the name, John. And

it's because they're because of this Prince John. Yeah, so it's not

because of him. It's because of his family sucking.

SYD 8:51

Basically, all of these names have been reused since for example, or

Edward may Henry George, but John stopped here. This was the last John

in this lineage. He suffered from epilepsy and a lot of historians

believe that he also had autism or was on the autism spectrum. And his

family decided to hide him. Apparently, at that time, a lot of people

who had disabilities were just hidden in farmhouses, seeing hidden and

 

not being put in the public eye

OLIVIA 9:19

really bad really bad

and I'm sure not being in any way shape or form taken care of like a

human being like,

SYD 9:25

well, definitely not being given the resources they probably needed.

They could definitely afford Yeah, so they Yeah, that's

OLIVIA 9:32

even more fucked, like they could afford to help them and like them

all their resources and then said they're like, no, no, I'm actually

gonna just gonna banish you.

SYD 9:39

Yeah, no, you're embarrassing for me. Yeah. So the family set him to

live on a farm with a nanny.

So while I will say that John's mother Mary was concerned and I guess

invited children to play at the farm so that he could, you know,

meet children and stuff like that maybe tried to an extent get tried

to some extent but it just wasn't how you read the lesson and you

know, an extent No, not okay at all.

And so he lives on this farm with this nanny. And this wasn't an

uncommon thing to do with a person who had a disability, which isn't

saying it was pretty cruel.

And he was never seen in public again. So John is not featured in any

of George's official biography is,

OLIVIA 10:19

and Edward, basically, in letters really criticized the way that

George treated John Edward was John's brother, his oldest brother,

and he heavily criticized the way that George treated him. No one

really knows the exact details, but that was kind of the point.

SYD 10:36

Yeah. And I think that, you know, a lot of historians have speculated

that the treatment of John by George was probably influenced by the

treatment of George's father.

You know, he had an absent father who was not great to him. And that

just kind of goes it's it's cycles. Yeah, it's it's in cycles, like

every other episode of this podcast, we talk about how dynasties work

 

in cycles. And there are all of these really strange recurring bits.

OLIVIA 11:03

Worst part of the prince John's story is Prince John actually died of

an epileptic seizure when he was 13. Yeah, but his mom, like kind of

came out and said, like a totally different story.

SYD 11:15

Yeah, I guess his mom had said something along the lines of You know,

he passed in his sleep.

And you know, God took him back. And it was really peaceful. He wasn't

in pain. And I did not sound this could be my own. Yeah.

You know, yeah. Not totally understanding of what an epileptic seizure

is. But I would call that probably painful and bad and not in your

sleep.

OLIVIA 11:38

I would say that it's definitely bad.

SYD 11:41

Yeah, I don't think those statements totally match. Yeah,

OLIVIA 11:45

basically, what we're learning here is just to always be pouring one

out for Prince John, rest in peace, Prince John. Sorry.

SYD 11:53

And the BBC actually made a drama. Last prince, and it's about John so

I'm going to be watching that and go check that out. If you guys want

to watch that. Let us know what you think I haven't seen it yet. But

sounds pretty cool. And

OLIVIA 12:07

then of course, just going down some some family tree lineage to show

how we're gonna get to the Queen really quickly. George's other son,

Edward, the one who was a Nazi on the bad side, but then on the good

side was like, Hey, don't treat my little brother like that. So that's

one good thing that guy did. And everything else he did was bad, I

guess. Um, and so you know, he became king later than abdicate the

throne. So he could marry his mistress, who was also a Nazi, but she

was an American and a divorcee. And it ended up being weird and he

just kind of devoted his life to bad Nazi stuff. So his younger

brother, because he abdicated the throne, his younger brother became

King George the six, and his daughter was Queen Elizabeth. So now

we're here now we're gonna go

SYD 12:46

Yeah, so we know Queen Elizabeth. Yeah. And

 

OLIVIA 12:49

we have well, Queen Elizabeth was doing her seven years of, of rain

and all of her colonizing. She did

SYD 12:59

her sister was getting up to her own stuff. This was Princess

Margaret. Yeah,

OLIVIA 13:04

Princess Margaret. Princess. You know, here's something funny and this

is just a little my opinion. Everyone says that Princess Margaret was

gorgeous was glamorous. And it's like when you walked in when you walk

in the room it was like oh my god there she is. Yeah. And they also

said that Wallace the woman Wallis Simpson was so

SYD 13:23

ugly it's been cited in in a lot of like history books that Wallace

was not very attractive which is so funny

OLIVIA 13:30

see any of these people as looking any different from one another? I

know I kind of bad but I think all just look like early 1900s royalty

or like British people like they all have the same face to me.

SYD 13:41

Yeah, it's so funny. Like, I don't know if we mentioned this last

episode or not. But yeah, they all look the same to me. They all just

look like white people. I don't know what

OLIVIA 13:49

to tell you. But like I mean, listen, I don't like Wallace because

she's a Nazi. No, of course not. But I'm saying like She's so ugly and

Margaret Margaret is gorgeous and then looking at pictures and the

like they're they're just white wearing with dark hair. I don't know.

It's hard for me to tell to so according to the general public

Princess Margaret was just like the absolute hottest shit and sure

everyone was loving it. They she was talking to town she was a

socialite she's famous. People loved her. She was married to a

photographer Antony Armstrong Jones and their marriage was not good.

They did not like that.

SYD 14:19

Yeah, Margaret would eventually divorce her husband which was

obviously its own massive scandal. We know the Royals don't

OLIVIA 14:26

love divorce Queen sister getting a divorce. Yeah, but before

SYD 14:29

 

they'd made it official, they were seeing other people

OLIVIA 14:34

right and one of the main people that Margaret was seeing was Roddy

Llewellyn. Yeah, now get this shit. Okay. Ronnie Llewellyn was 17

years younger than Margaret. Okay. And he was a gardener who wanted to

be a pop star. So I love him. We just so much really think about that

for a second because like,

SYD 14:58

God give this guy a TV show. What? Like,

OLIVIA 15:01

what were their conversations like? Like was she being like God, you

know, just stick with me you're gonna be Popstar when he was like, Oh

yeah, I heard it and

SYD 15:11

it's just so crazy to me to think that this guy was a gardener who

wanted to be a pop star who was making sweet sweet love who a woman 17

years older than him who was married and the Queen sister.

OLIVIA 15:24

Yes, this guy's life is kind of crazy. This guy's life is a

telenovela. It really is like yes is there's this doesn't happen to

anyone who many plot points in this one guy's life. God, I

SYD 15:36

love it. BBC pick that up

OLIVIA 15:39

on guys. The real scandal was was when a picture of him and Margaret.

Were just like enjoying some sunshine at a beachside Villa and 76.

There were pictures taken. Everyone was like, whoa, hold on. And now

who's that gardener who wants to be a pop star? That's not her

SYD 15:54

husband. And now all of a sudden the Royals are forced to acknowledge

the embarrassment of Margaret's separation from her husband. Yeah. And

they don't they don't want to talk about that. They want to keep

everything prim and proper lately.

OLIVIA 16:05

Absolutely. Yeah. That's what happens when you when you meet the

gardener and the gardener is younger and he wants to be a pop star.

Well, here's the thing. Your whole family is ashamed.

SYD 16:16

I really hope that Roddy Llewellyn got his own solo career, you know,

I hope that he at least got one single if you found any singles Yeah.

 

Any good mixtape? Yeah, good. Mixed everybody Lulu row it our way

because yeah, Mo events and I would love to hear that. I'd love to

hear some lyrics that are like, Oh, you're the queen in my heart, even

though you're not the Queen to the public. Yes, I want us.

OLIVIA 16:36

I think that's really good.

SYD 16:40

Okay, now here's another scandal. Yeah. Here's another scandal. Yeah.

We were told something about sex tour. Yes, sex tours was going on

with the royal family and sex.

OLIVIA 16:50

Okay, I will. Let's get into who Sophie is. So Sophie Rhys Jones is

the Countess of Wessex and Forfar.

SYD 16:59

Yeah. And she is married to Prince Edward who is Charles his younger

brother

OLIVIA 17:03

Charles isn't Charles and di Charles and Camilla, younger brother

Edward, married to this woman Sophie. So there are multiple Edwards

here. So there in 2001 A reporter who pretended to be a potential

client of her firm came over and talked to her about you know, her

business and ended up recording the whole conversation in secret and

she just did so much damage by talking.

SYD 17:29

I mean, she dished on all of the Royals and they really don't love it

OLIVIA 17:33

well they hate when you do that. No, they hated especially what are

some of the stuff okay, so here's some of the things she she just said

candidly, to someone who should like we might be doing business

together. Let me just share all of this, who of course, was a reporter

recording everything she said. She said that Prime Minister Tony Blair

was ignorant of the countryside which was now engulfed by Foot and

Mouth Disease, to disease. Another thing is that Blair's wife, Cherie

is quote, even worse, she hates the countryside. Gotta go overwhelmed

with the people of the countryside.

SYD 18:05

She also reportedly commented on Prince Charles relationship with

Camilla, arguing that a marriage would not be possible as long as the

queen mother was alive. Oh,

OLIVIA 18:16

she also said the Conservative Party leader William Hague. Sounds like

 

a puppet, which is kind of a fun harmless comment. Actually, she said

sounds like a puppet, unfortunately.

SYD 18:29

And, you know, she was with her business partner. And her business

partner Marie Harkin was talking about his sex lies and cocaine use

and boasting about Sophie's abilities to secure celebrities for

different events and stuff. It's really wild.

OLIVIA 18:45

Yeah. They also, she mentioned that Prince Charles will, quote

unquote, always have a go at putting on a wig or doing something

silly. That can mean so much.

SYD 18:55

Like I would hope that people would say that about me. Yeah.

OLIVIA 18:59

Oh, she also said she was a lot more intelligent than Princess Diana.

Wow. Which is controversial boy. Now, here's some worse stuff. That's

also just so much to say in one conversation, say in one conversation

that you were the person you just met. But could it get any worse? Oh,

it sure could. I

SYD 19:16

believe we mentioned sex, total health luck, and

OLIVIA 19:18

yet could get so much worse. So after all of the dirt that she was

spilling on her family. She decided to be like, Oh my God, by the way.

Yeah. Let me tell you about all of this weird sex stuff. We do. Yeah.

Which is a crate once again, crazy. You just

SYD 19:35

put it someone you do not know. So she and her partner offered to

procure young men and women. Yeah. Are the reporter Yeah, depending on

his preference. Yeah,

OLIVIA 19:45

they it says the firm can procure quote, unquote, nice boys for

clients. The quote was, how young does he like? Does he like Asian

boys? And how young 2021 2528 Oh, God, at least All of those are above

the age of consent. I

SYD 20:03

can't believe that's where we draw the line here like like that. We're

talking about so many mesto people were like, well,

OLIVIA 20:12

they also referred to with Prince Edwards sexuality. They said,

 

there's no smoke without fire. Meaning like, okay, something's going

on going on. And, of course, the craziest and worst thing that they

can arrange sex tours to the Far East now said do to sex tour. I'm

gonna be honest with you. I don't sex tours, as in sex tourism is a

thing people do. And this is not an official definition of it. This is

just my knowledge of it. Sure. It's a thing. Like kind of gross, awful

people do where they go to other countries where? Yeah, prostitution

is legal. But it's not necessarily like, necessarily good for the

football. Yeah, it's not like, okay, it's not an only fans where

someone's making all their own, you know, make it has.

SYD 21:01

Okay, so it's where the sex worker doesn't necessarily have best. No

one has the sex workers best interest in mind. Right. And the sex

worker probably isn't as safe as they could be. And it's not as

regulated as it could.

OLIVIA 21:13

Absolutely. Okay, so and the point of sex tourism, I guess, is to go

to these other countries so that you can have these crazy sexual

experiences, right, that you'd probably never be able to have in a

country with more real laws about sex. Right? So it's a lot of gray

area, but I'm going to say that none of it's good. I would say if you

want to, if you want to go on a on a tour of sex, call a bunch of

people who you know want to have sex with you set them up in different

cities, or find people in different cities and visit them at a bunch

of different motels. Big road trip Motel Six, two Motel Six, and

that's your tour of whatever country it is. You're in. Yeah, like for

example, why don't you just go from like Delaware to Oregon to

California. That's all one, Dmitri Yeah, it's all one country. Take a

tour of the United States of America with people whose consensually

want to have legal sex with you. Um, but that's not what they offered.

They offered sex tours. Okay, great. So

SYD 22:10

you know, obviously you know, the palace probably really they liked it

right. They were like, We love that released a statement saying that

the reported comments were selective, distorted and in several cases,

just flat out untrue.

OLIVIA 22:24

Both are so distinct. Oh, boy.

SYD 22:27

So the palace officials said that the Countess had not insulted the

queen, the Queen Mother or the politicians and the rumors about her

difficulties in marriage and her alleged comments about her husband

sexuality and all this stuff. were untrue.

OLIVIA 22:42

 

This statement is sponsored by gaslighting. Yeah,

SYD 22:47

yeah. And obviously, you know, the palace has no reason to want to

cover that.

OLIVIA 22:52

No, there'd be no reason they never cover anything up. They never want

to they never tried to cover up horrible horrible shit. No. But yeah,

so the recorded conversation was published in all the backlash and

speaking of undercover reporters, reporting embarrassing conversations

more check this one out. Okay.

SYD 23:09

Sarah Ferguson, the original Fergie. Yeah,

OLIVIA 23:12

the Duchess of York. She told another reporter pretending to be a

businessman. Anyone does a theme and you know, there's a part of me

that goes oh, that's that's not morally correct. But then it's like

doing that to the extremely rich and powerful maybe is morally

correct. Yeah.

SYD 23:28

There were probably cases where they find out some things that might

actually help them that there'd be

OLIVIA 23:32

no way that they could find out otherwise because they have so much

power. Yeah, so yeah, sure. I'd say go for it. Go for it. Borders not

SYD 23:40

totally against it. Um, so

OLIVIA 23:42

she had a meeting with this businessman and she told him listen, you

can access my ex husband Prince Andrew for half a million pounds.

SYD 23:53

Okay. What I have so many questions here okay. Access when you say you

can access my ex has not not in a sex tours way. No, no, no, no. Why

and that's not what I'm implying. I'm saying if if she gets 500 If she

gets $500,000 Yeah, you can what have lunch with him?

OLIVIA 24:13

i Okay, the thing she said in it sounded very vague was like I can

open the door for you to him and everything you've ever wanted will be

there now very vague.

SYD 24:26

 

Okay. Now the reason she's doing this because at first I was like, why

would she even be doing this? This doesn't really I

OLIVIA 24:31

mean, if I was trying to make side cash up my mind, I might be like,

SYD 24:34

I should like do delivery driver. Yeah, like I should do GrubHub or

like maybe I could like I wouldn't think let me sell meet and greets

with my ex right Right. Right. Right. Right. But basically the short

version of like why she was doing this is she had really bad lawyers

terrible. Lawyers. When Princess Diana divorce Charles she walked away

with $20 million. We love that. I mean, listen, that's such an amount

of money for her when Fergie You divorced Andrew, she got Are you

ready? Yep. $20,000 that's very

OLIVIA 25:04

different. It's a very different it's very different. And while it's

more than let's say I necessarily have sure it is less than I think a

duchess would be able to really live off of if they didn't massively

change their lifestyle. Oh, oh, yeah, easily

SYD 25:20

at one point after her divorce, Fergie admitted to having almost $4

million in debt. That's a lot of debt. Yeah, I know that we're calling

your Fergie to I mean, you know, it's, it's Forget it. So if you could

make half a million by like having someone meet your EQ, I mean,

according

OLIVIA 25:38

to the public, she said like Oh, my ex and I are best friends. We're

on such good terms. So don't really believe anything ever. I don't

believe anything. I know. I

SYD 25:48

don't believe when people say we're best but when you say of my ex and

our best friends, I don't believe you is wrong. You say my ex I are

still friendly or my ex and I are still friends. I might

OLIVIA 25:57

do your co parenting and we're totally better off as friends or you

know best rest friends I rarely Why aren't you still together if

you're actually best friend I really believe unless one of you like

decided they are no longer sexually attracted to I don't know. I'm

getting into like really specific shifts. And and I don't need to I

don't need to do that. Oh,

SYD 26:17

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OLIVIA 26:22

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SYD 26:24

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OLIVIA 26:51

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SYD 27:11

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OLIVIA 27:41

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SYD 27:44

Thank you so much for buying ad space we need $20 to so we

OLIVIA 27:48

know that ad space actually cost 20 Hold on. Hold on. She's she's

spending money to make money. Yes, she's

SYD 27:53

spending the money so that I can give it back to her so I can hang out

with her. So

 

OLIVIA 27:56

Oh, did you already sign out? I did. Yeah. I'm loving that for you.

Well, I

SYD 27:59

need somebody to come to my art show. Are

OLIVIA 28:00

you going to chase him down the street or go to the Ren Faire with

him? Yeah, I'm gonna do all of it. I got a whole day. Absolutely

loving that. Okay, so

SYD 28:05

here's the thing. Fergie's x, right. Why do you want to spend time

with that guy?

OLIVIA 28:12

Good question. Who in the right mind would actually like to spend time

with the one and only Prince Andrew? Yeah. Let's

SYD 28:19

talk about Prince Andrew for a second.

OLIVIA 28:21

Okay, first off, isn't there like a whole thing where he's like, I

don't sweat. I never sweat. Yeah, I

SYD 28:26

mean, that's such a lie. We all sweat. Yeah, we also and if you don't

sweat, you're my Pilates teacher.

OLIVIA 28:31

Or the woman from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City who got all her

scent glands removed? Yeah. And and was hated being in the hospital.

SYD 28:42

Yes. I think that was Mary.

OLIVIA 28:44

She said Charlotte doesn't matter it I think it was one of them. But

yeah, so So but I'll say the average bear sweats the average person.

The average average human being sweats like

SYD 28:56

Prince Andrew does a lot more than just sweating. He's a sex. So there

are a lot of I don't know if you guys look into all the Jeffrey

Epstein stuff. Jeffrey Epstein. You know him. He is a pedophile.

OLIVIA 29:13

Bad bad dude. Bad guy owns a pedophile Island.

 

SYD 29:17

Yeah, he had a big pedophile Island. And he is just the worst just was

just the worst. Yeah,

OLIVIA 29:24

he's dead. He's super dead fine with that. And yep, we don't like no

don't like anyone who hurts kids. Oh, no.

SYD 29:31

So Jeffrey Epstein was introduced to Prince Andrew by Jeffrey

Epstein's ex girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, who is also in trouble for

also in China and all that stuff,

OLIVIA 29:39

doing bad stuff to kids, which if you're if you are friends with both

of them if you're close

SYD 29:44

with both, I would say turn this off.

OLIVIA 29:46

Oh, yeah, I was gonna say if your friends were close with both of

them. I would say you you've got to know Oh, sorry. You're saying if

you're listening if you're friends with them, you're not gonna get the

fuck away from me. I don't want to talk sorry. I want to be anywhere

near your support. Jeffrey Epstein, I don't care about Get away from

me.

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SYD: Prince Andrew although prince Andrew says he and Epstein we're

not that close

00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:22,000

SYD: Several private dinners parties and fundraisers together

including a birthday party the prince threw for Maxwell and like

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SYD: Beaver Creek

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SYD: Donald Trump Mar-A-Lago Palm Beach Florida

00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000

 

OLIVIA: Racing party in the friend's party with Donald Trump at Mar-A-

Lago doesn't

 

00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:54,000

OLIVIA: Mean as much as Andrew and Epstein on holiday together and

were in a picture.

 

00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000

SYD: They were surrounded by topless young women in Thailand

00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:08,000

OLIVIA: Once again we were just talking about sex tourism

00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:15,000

SYD: The Times of London reported that the princes holiday was paid

for by Epstein

00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000

OLIVIA: I mean

00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000

OLIVIA: It's just

00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:28,000

SYD: You want to hear something even gross on her 18th birthday party

princess

00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:38,000

SYD: The spirit Rihanna hate that at Windsor Castle in 2006 two months

after he had been issued an arrest warrant for sexual assault of a

minor and the prince

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SYD: Said he was unaware of the warrant and the Epstein just attended

as Maxwell's Gaston weird thing that he actually mostly friends with

00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:58,000

SYD: Maxwell like she's she's not innocent either or no

00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:08,000

OLIVIA: This weird stuff about prince Andrew and new pictures

00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:18,000

OLIVIA: The cheap price of 500,000 might have been a pedophile

00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:28,000

OLIVIA: When she says we could open all the doors that you've ever

wanted doors

00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:38,000

SYD: I would say there's some bad doors within the doors she's

referencing OLIVIA: obviously there are these International scandals

that has like really really tormented people

00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:48,000

OLIVIA: Even within their own family

 

00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000

OLIVIA: Something about being in

00:32:52,000 --> 00:33:00,000

OLIVIA: Born into like a dynasty where you're handed all of this Fame

and power and money money

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OLIVIA: Breaks your brain like your brain stops being a normal human

brain

00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:19,000

OLIVIA: You don't have to play by the rules you don't know about

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SYD: The way you don't play by the rules until you have consequences

and then all of a sudden you're like what consequences as you go

further and further into

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SYD: The past Generations you just see more of the

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SYD: same pattern repeated from generation to generation it's just

it's absolutely nuts OLIVIA: you guys now have some interesting

tidbits about the Royal Family

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