We’re talking tampongate, King Charles III’s infidelity, Prince Andrew’s sex tourism, and Princess Diana’s divorce settlement. Time and time again, royal romance isn’t coming up roses.
We’re talking tampongate, King Charles III’s infidelity, Prince Andrew’s sex tourism, and Princess Diana’s divorce settlement. Time and time again, royal romance isn’t coming up roses.
This podcast contains sensitive information about violence, sexual assault, and domestic abuse.
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SYD 0:00
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Welcome to dark dynasties, the podcast where we focus on different
rich and powerful families who have ultimately expose themselves to be
corrupt messed up and well, very dark.
OLIVIA 0:24
This episode we'll be talking about maybe the most famous family ever
the royal family
SYD 0:29
as in the Windsors we've seen their ups and their downs, victory and
defeat and oh other scandals. It's a lot of scandals, so
OLIVIA 0:37
many scandals. So after centuries of royal watching, I must have seen
it all right. I don't think we have I think there's a lot more so we
just got to get into it. Huh?
SYD 0:44
I'm Syd.
OLIVIA 0:45
I'm Olivia.
SYD 0:46
And this episode is about the British royal families' little Nazi
problem.
OLIVIA 0:51
Oh, didn't see that coming.
SYD 0:52
No, I didn't either.
Unknown Speaker 0:54
problem is an oxymoron. Sure. It's never been a Nazi problem. That's
OLIVIA 0:57
Little Nazi
Little
SYD 0:58
there has never been
OLIVIA 1:05
you remember Harry's Halloween costume in 2005.
SYD 1:07
Oh, when he dressed as a Nazi and everyone's like, I don't know if you
can do that.
OLIVIA 1:10
Yeah, everyone was like, that's not good at all.
SYD 1:12
It's more chilling now knowing his family's history. Absolutely. So
listen, I'm not saying here is a Nazi. I don't think he is.
OLIVIA 1:19
I think he picked an incorrect Halloween costume. Yeah. Be a cat.
Yeah, it would be something cat Harry. Yeah. Be a sexy cat or a sexy
nurse.
SYD 1:28
truly Harry curry. So anyway, let's back up a little bit. Yeah. Okay.
Let's
Yeah,
go back to George the fifth.
OLIVIA 1:34
Okay, so we're going back to before the Nazi Party was even founded.
SYD 1:38
Yeah,
we're going back to June 22 1911.
OLIVIA 1:41
That's crazy.
SYD 1:42
Britain has a new monarch for the second time in a decade. And it's
George the fifth. This is Queen Victoria's grandson.
OLIVIA 1:48
Yes. Yeah.
SYD 1:49
Because his father Edward the seventh died suddenly of a heart attack.
And his brother Albert was supposed to be king, but he died of
influenza. So now George was sort of thrust into the position of being
king. Yeah. And he didn't even really want to do it.
OLIVIA 2:01
Oh, no, he did not he did not want to do it.
SYD 2:03
That's a theme kind of a lot of a lot of these Royals didn't actually
really want to be keynote was too much responsibility.
OLIVIA 2:08
And they didn't want to do it. And his father Edward, who was king
before him, you know, was an absolute playboy. And he had like a bunch
of affairs and there's a lot of people who say that his antics kind of
really affected George's personality a lot and made him kind of shut
off his empathy centers.
SYD 2:24
And this is again another trend we see these dynasties Yep. Where
we'll see one patriarch is kind of has these problems with treat
people terrible treat people worse. They have affairs doctrine or
debauchery. Good dad, and then you see that kind of continue and
repeat itself. Yeah, through the men in the family.
OLIVIA 2:45
I guess Queen
Victoria, you know, didn't really like how Edward turned out. So she
was like, I'm going to try to have her hand in raising Edwards
children. Edward as a child had really bad anger issues.
He had a bad temper. He struggled with school really bad. His brother
died of influenza in 1892, which means George was the new heir to the
throne.
SYD 3:05
And people really liked King George. Yeah, people thought that he was
a good guy behind closed doors. Apparently he had a really bad temper
OLIVIA 3:14
but
in front of closed doors, he was known as the little king because he
was just small and the crowd looks big on him. So I love that
SYD 3:20
I actually saw a picture and he looked very little. That's so it looks
like his crown is kind of slipping down off of his head like he's
wearing his daddy's credit
OLIVIA 3:29
He's wearing daddy's crown. Yeah, so we will call him a little king.
And the other thing too is that Queen Victoria was like, you know who
you are going to marry? You are going to marry your dead brother's
fiancee.
SYD 3:40
Yeah, this is a weird one.
OLIVIA 3:42
Yeah, Princess Mary, who was Albert's fiance before Albert died of
influenza. He was like, actually, I don't really want to date my
brother's ex. And, you know, she was like, that's really sucks for
you. Because you're going to.
SYD 3:55
Yeah, they you know, we're married. And at first, I think they didn't
totally know how to show affection toward each other. I actually they
wrote a lot of love letters instead of talking out loud because they
were just kind of uncomfortable with the previous situation
OLIVIA 4:11
like the little introverts being like, hey, Albert died. This is
weird. This is awkward. Yeah, I like that fix writing letters.
SYD 4:19
And here's the thing. So now we're around the time of World War One,
right?
OLIVIA 4:23
And World War One. You know, Germany is against Britain,
SYD 4:26
Britain and
Germany are not loving each other. They don't love it. But George had
German heritage dating back to 1714. And people started questioning
Georgia's allegiance to Britain, right?
OLIVIA 4:37
They were like, are you actually pro Britain? Or are you pro Germany
because your last name is Saxe Coburg on gota.
SYD 4:47
And George doesn't feel comfortable with people questioning his
allegiance to Britain because obviously he is the king
and he wants to make it very clear that he is not untamed Germany.
Yeah, so George has to start withdrawing titles from his German
relatives to prove that he is on Britain's side
OLIVIA 5:02
and changes their family's name. Oh, yeah.
SYD 5:05
So this whole House of Windsor thing. This is from George. Yeah.
George changes the house of Saxe Coburg and Gotha. To House of
Windsor, which sounds a lot less German. Yes. And so a new dynasty is
born.
OLIVIA 5:19
Absolutely. So
there's something interesting to get into with George really quickly.
It's not as related to the Nazis. But it is a really interesting and
important part of the timeline.
So George was very close friends with his first cousin, Tsar Nicholas,
the second of Russia. Oh, my gosh, first off, my question is like, how
are all these people, cousins? If they're all running different
countries? And the answer,
SYD 5:43
there's this huge web of royalty who are all related on the same
continent? Yeah, because Queen Victoria is trying to get everyone
married to each other so that they can have more control over
everybody
OLIVIA 5:56
They have more influence in every place if they have a person from the
family married into every place. So
SYD 6:01
George is not only cousins with Tsar Nicholas the second he's also
cousins with Tsar Nicholas the seconds wife. Yeah, they're cousins.
And they're married,
OLIVIA 6:09
Loving that for them.
SYD 6:10
So when Russia entered World War One in 1914, they were having
hardships as a nation and the people of Russia became more and more
resentful of Tsar Nicholas the second and his family. And this led to
the 1917 February revolution.
So basically, it's this huge, like protest against food rationing.
People are angry in the streets, people are fighting with police and
the last loyal royal forces of the Russian monarchy.
So Nicholas and his family are urged by the government to flee as the
riots unfold. Right. So now, Nicolas and his cousin George, who are
good friends,
OLIVIA 6:45
yeah, they're good friends. And the thing they both have in common is
they're like, I don't really know about this whole me being the king
thing. It's a lot of responsibility. Yeah.
SYD 6:51
And so they're starting to send letters back and forth about how you
know they're worried for each other.
And at first, the British government says, Hey, why doesn't Nicholas
and his family seek refuge here come seek asylum seek asylum? Yeah,
here in Britain.
And at the time, the British were calling a Tsar Nicholas, bloody
Nicholas and his wife, Alexandria was German born. So that's a tricky
situation.
OLIVIA 7:15
So George is now put in the situation of like, do I want to save my
really good friend and have him come here? But then potentially, if
people question me more on whether I'm anti Britain
SYD 7:25
now
George has to make the decision of do I want to help my friend and
cousin? Or do I want to do what is going to be politically more
simple? If I don't let them come to Britain?
I don't have to be questioned on whether I am team Germany because
Alexandria is German born. I don't have to be questioned on who I'm
siding with.
OLIVIA 7:46
He straight up single handedly let them all die.
SYD 7:50
He says
Actually, no. After the British government says yes. Come seek asylum
here. George says no.
OLIVIA 7:57
But he tells
Nicolas like, oh, it's the British government. It's not me.
SYD 8:00
But it was George. It was entirely George. So
this inadvertently led to Nicholas and his entire family being killed
by the Bolsheviks.
OLIVIA 8:09
Yeah. Because they didn't have anywhere to seek asylum to because his
good friend said, Absolutely not.
SYD 8:14
So this is just another thing where there were secrets in the royal
family about whether
OLIVIA 8:21
or not you're anti German or pro German was very important around that
time. Yeah.
SYD 8:25
And there were all these secrets within the family of who is doing
what and they were trying to keep things a secret.
And they didn't they didn't want people to think that they were anti
their own family. Right. Right. Right. But they also didn't want
people to think they were anti Britain. Absolutely.
So let's talk about George's son.
OLIVIA 8:51
Yeah.
George's son, Edward. Dang, dang, dang, Dang,
SYD 8:56
this is where we're really getting into stuff. Okay. So before this,
let's remember, George is trying to distance himself from Germany, all
the German stuff trying to be like,
No, we're not even that German. Like, I'm not even that German at all.
And then Edward, on the other hand, is not allowed to fight in World
War One.
And people think that it's because, you know, they don't want the
person who's in line for the throne to get hurt. Right. Right. Right.
Well, other researchers speculate that maybe it's because he had a
thing for Germany.
OLIVIA 9:25
Yeah,
his dad, the king, did not trust him, like did not think he could be
trusted. He liked dictators really loudly. And, you know, George was
like, let's keep an eye on my son. Let's tap this
guy's wires.
SYD 9:38
So around the time Edward is being kind of debaucherous he's having a
lot of affairs with married women, a classic for him, and he's just
kind of, you know,
fooling around and George doesn't approve of this. Right right. Right
now Edward also is pretty interested in a an American woman
OLIVIA 9:58
right, which is a horrible thing to be in. Well she's also a divorce,
a divorce a and she has a second husband that she's with now she
becomes Edwards mistress.
Her name is Wallis Simpson. And the media just goes crazy. They're
like, Who's this woman? Who's this American?
SYD 10:16
Well, this is also just not very typical for British royalty to kind
of parade around your mistress.
OLIVIA 10:22
No, yeah.
SYD 10:23
And he was being really, really the public
OLIVIA 10:25
He's obsessed with her.
SYD 10:26
And a lot of researchers say it's because she was kind of domineering
kind of a bully, and that he
liked that
OLIVIA 10:34
That he was maybe a little bit of a sub. Yes. So
SYD 10:36
the family is kind of like, what is going on? Yeah. What is this? And
also people are questioning why does he liked this American woman so
much?
They consider her unattractive.
OLIVIA 10:46
Which is so weird, because I feel like everyone in that time looked
exactly the same.
SYD 10:49
I agree. I think they all look literally identical. So I don't like
how she's unattractive.
OLIVIA 10:53
Everyone
looks like a little bit pasty. A little bit inbred. Yeah, kind of
classic looking. And that's just how it goes. But
SYD 10:58
again, researchers say that a big reason he might have been attracted
to her over the women that he was being presented to marry is that in
the UK,
it was less common at the time for women to be as educated as it was
in America. The American women were sometimes more educated and these
aristocratic British women were not necessarily as educated.
OLIVIA 11:19
Yeah,
so the media hated her. You know, they were like, Oh, she's ugly.
She's American. She's divorced.
SYD 11:24
Meanwhile, Edward is constantly sleeping with married women, and also
kind of stupid. So it's, I don't know, what are the double standards,
kind of a big double standard
OLIVIA 11:33
He literally abdicates the throne, he gets the throne for 11 months.
He's king for 11 months. And then he says,
You know what, I want to marry this woman. And in order to do that I
have to abdicate the throne. So I am no longer the king.
SYD 11:47
Yeah. When
she gets divorced from her former husband, she's available. And he's
like, I'm going to jump in on that. Yeah.
OLIVIA 11:53
She divorces her husband to marry him. Yeah.
SYD 11:56
Now people originally thought all of this scandal is all about the
romance. It's all about the romance.
OLIVIA 12:02
It's all about the divorce, you know, shame of America and divorce.
SYD 12:05
Yeah, there's no way she can be queen because she's divorced and
American. However, there is a chance that there were some other
reasons she was not allowed to marry him.
There are some other reasons that maybe he abdicated the throne and
decided to be with her instead. And that reason is
Nazism. So around this time... you know the Nazis.
OLIVIA 12:29
I've I I'm aware
SYD 12:31
they were a thing.
Still are still still are, unfortunately. But they
were really coming on up around here. Yeah. So Wallis is a big fan.
She loves it of the Nazis. Edward, also big fan of the Nazis. They
love it. When they get married. They got married at a chateau that I
believe was owned by a Nazi
OLIVIA 12:54
in 1937. They go visit Hitler
SYD 12:58
perfect. There's actually a photo from this. And you see Hitler
kissing Wallis his hand
OLIVIA 13:04
Oh, boy. So he abdicates the throne and then immediately like my wife
and I are gonna go hang out with Hitler. We're gonna go see Hitler
now.
SYD 13:12
Even though he's abdicated the throne. They are still the Duke and
Duchess of Windsor.
OLIVIA 13:16
Absolutely. They're still tied to the royal family completely
SYD 13:18
and they always will be
OLIVIA 13:19
absolutely and so it's crazy because the Royals are kind of trying to
do massive damage control being like, oh shit.
SYD 13:26
Yeah, the the Royals are trying to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Edward. No, he's not an easy he's just with this American woman.
Yeah. And it's meanwhile, Edward is like going to BBC being like, Hey,
do you think I could have a special where I talk about how I'm
actually loving Germany for me?
OLIVIA 13:41
Oh my god.
SYD 13:42
And BBC is like, no, and the British Royal tear like, no, what are you
doing
OLIVIA 13:49
We know that. Gerbils and Goehring talk to him. We know that he had
tea with Hitler at least once.
SYD 13:55
This circles they were hanging around in where people were outwardly
very pro Nazi. They were Nazi sympathizers.
OLIVIA 14:01
They were openly Nazi sympathizers.
SYD 14:11
So here's another thing we should talk about. Edward was not
considered the brightest bulb.
OLIVIA 14:18
Okay, okay. Well, that's always an incredible layer to something like
this.
SYD 14:21
He was not considered the sharpest tool in the shed
OLIVIA 14:24
wasn't it that like his all his contemporaries wrote in their diaries,
like, God, this guy's so stupid.
SYD 14:31
Yeah,
it was recorded in people's journals. Yeah. They were saying like, Oh
my gosh, this man just has nothing going on in his head. Yeah, he was
known to be not really an intelligent guy.
OLIVIA 14:44
But okay.
I think the crazy thing here is that sure you've got this guy who's
like, I wanted to be king. Now I'm not King. Now. I'm in Germany with
my American wife. We're both Nazi supporters.
We're hanging out with the Nazis. And what's so crazy about that is
Winston Churchill apparently during the war was like actually
genuinely afraid that Edward could betray England like at any moment.
SYD 15:08
Yeah, there
were a lot of years later, you know, we found all of these documents
not we not us personally
OLIVIA 15:17
Yeah Syd and I went and found all these documentas
SYD 15:19
of these documents were uncovered. And you know, some of it was
obviously destroyed. But what it made clear is that Winston Churchill
thought that Edward could betray England at any moment during the war.
OLIVIA 15:30
Yeah, and his so Edwards like personal security detail, was basically
feeding all of his info to the British intelligence, like all his
telegrams back and forth with the Nazis.
So they were all like, intercepted and recorded and archived and
hidden and hidden because because Churchill and everyone else was
like, we have to hide this because during the war,
it would be such bad morale to have the headlines like, oh, remember
the guy who was King for 11 months and is still part of the royal
family and he
is a traitor?
Yeah, loves the Nazis.
SYD 16:00
Yeah, you wouldn't be good, but ended up getting so bad that the
British government organized for Edward to be shipped off to the
Bahamas as damage control.
OLIVIA 16:10
So I'm just gonna pop in here and say I'm pissed off about that.
SYD 16:14
Yeah,
I want to be shipped off to the Bahamas.
OLIVIA 16:16
Like being
a terrible person and like ruining everything. You just get a vacation
to the Bahamas,
SYD 16:22
and he didn't want to go it's not like he was like woo
OLIVIA 16:25
He tried to run away right him and Wallis tried to run away.
Yeah, they tried to run away essentially, I guess they thought the
British were going to try to kill them because the Nazis told them the
British are going to try to kill you because the whole time right and
remember this is brings us back to Edward is dumb.
The Nazis had this plot to actually kidnap Wallis and Edward. Sure.
Which is so funny, because they're telling them like, oh, the British
are gonna kill you.
But the whole time they're running from the British. There's this guy
named Ribbentrop. Yeah. And he's actually trying to kidnap them. The
idea was to kidnap them and keep them around. And then when Germany
invaded England, they would put Edward in as a king. That's basically
their
puppet.
SYD 17:08
Yeah. And actually just some more interesting information about into
it got a Ribbentrop.
OLIVIA 17:14
Yeah, what's up with Ribbentrop?
SYD 17:16
So there's a lot of stuff in the British media about Wallis being this
kind of seductive woman. Yeah. Like, how did she How did she get so
keen? Snagged all these different guys, you know, she had these two
divorces before the king and you know, and
OLIVIA 17:32
also she's writing all these letters that they found during her
divorce from her second husband when she was about to marry Edward
saying like, she was writing to her husband that she is divorcing
going I'm so lonely. I'm hating this. I don't really love this. I'm
just lonely and sad. And I don't know myself. And so that's like,
first off crazy to be complaining about the guy you're about to marry
to the guy you're divorcing.
SYD 17:55
Yeah, that's weird. So on top of that, when she's already with Edward,
right, she is kind of having a couple of affairs, right? And maybe
other people perhaps,
OLIVIA 18:05
perhaps didn't write a letter to her uncle being like, God, it's so
hard to have so many men.
SYD 18:11
Yeah, she wrote a letter. She wrote a letter
while she was juggling Edward and her husband who she's married to at
the time saying like,
I'm trying to keep them both, but it's really difficult. And it's
like, ok. But the truth is, well, she was married to Edward and
they're running because they think they're gonna get killed by the
British. Yeah, Ribbentrop was actually ordered by Hitler to kind of
have a steamy exchange.
OLIVIA 18:40
A steamy hot exchange. Yeah. With Wallis, right?
SYD 18:43
Yeah.
Yeah. Because they're trying to kind of be in control over them
anyway. They can. They're trying to keep tabs on them. Right. In fact,
Ribbentrop apparently was giving Wallis 17 carnations a day. Okay,
that's a lot. 17 carnation just symbolizes Yeah, the 17 times that
they were intimate.
OLIVIA 19:05
No way.
That's so specific. Like that's too many times to count. And yet he's
still counting. Yeah, he's like, 17 like, I feel like if it was like,
oh, for the, for the five times that we've made love here are five
roses, but it's like 17 17 times 17
Yeah, so you know Edward and Wallis eventually freaked themselves out
enough to actually go to the Bahamas when they were out of the Nazis
immediate sphere of influence
but like that didn't really change their opinions about anything like
Edward still kind of like spent the entire war apparently making like
crazy statements about how like England will lose and Germany will win
everything
SYD 19:48
Yeah, this
guy really wanted his own people to be killed
OLIVIA 19:53
yeah taken over and killed.
SYD 19:54
He was okay with the idea of Britain being bombed. Yeah, at some point
like he He really was team Germany, and his family was in charge of
Britain
OLIVIA 20:05
which is
just crazy because if they had Twitter back home like he would have
gotten banned like he wouldn't like someone else we know I like some
other people we know. So here's a segment called Edwards
Twitter.
SYD 20:22
So if Twitter had been around during this time and Edward was able to
more freely speak about his opinion, yeah,
OLIVIA 20:30
and not have it hidden by the British who are trying to protect you
know, their own. Everything
SYD 20:35
we wanted to kind of think of, maybe what would these tweets sound
like? So, here are just some examples.
OLIVIA 20:41
All right. Here's one. Adidas can't drop me. I can commit treason
during World War Two and Adidas can't drop me now. What?
SYD 20:50
Okay, perfect, beautiful. Okay, here's another one. I thought maybe
would be on Edwards Twitter. Right. Where to right right. BBC trying
to give fake news Germany has the best boats. The biggest army the
nicest Hitler. I stand with Germany hashtag five ever.
OLIVIA 21:07
Okay, here's
one. Here's one. Okay, Winston Churchill is too flat chested to ever
be a 10 Sorry losers and haters hashtag sad.
SYD 21:15
Oh, so
sad. Here's one picture all of these really misspelled
OLIVIA 21:20
Yeah, of course.
SYD 21:21
Here's another one. My wife is not having relations with a Nazi Party
leader. She doesn't need do I have the best junk and the biggest hands
and Wallis is perfectly happy with me hashtag make Wallis queen of the
world hashtag make Wallis great again.
OLIVIA 21:40
And then, you know, of course, despite the negative press of the Nazis
covfefe. Oh, beautiful, beautiful. So that was a segment that we call
Edwards Twitter
ever since then, you know, the British government and the royal family
has kind of been suppressing all of the embarrassing kind of
information about Edward being a Nazi
SYD 22:07
Let me give you a personal example. Her head and I so well,
while doing the research for this episode. Yes. I couldn't find
anything about Edward being a Nazi. On many of the British history
sites I was looking at
OLIVIA 22:24
Damn, but on non British site
SYD 22:27
on non British sites I found way more
OLIVIA 22:29
Yeah, it was like way more like oh, yeah, this is a huge thing. And we
were like, Oh, he just loved an American woman. Yeah,
SYD 22:35
yeah. And so it wasn't until really like digging into other you know,
history sites and publications that I found out that
there is a possibility that the reason he abdicated the throne the
reason people were not okay. With him getting married to Wallis.
OLIVIA 22:55
Right, internally
SYD 22:56
internally wasn't necessarily because she was an American who was a
divorcee, but more because they knew she was a Nazi sympathizer.
OLIVIA 23:04
Yeah, that'd be a way bigger fucking reason. And I would back that
reason
SYD 23:08
and in all of these places that I was reading about it before like it
was just saying she was an American she was a divorce a time
OLIVIA 23:15
American
divorcee is the scapegoat. Why they it's why they pretend it's like
the fake reason in the public reason. But in reality, there's a huge
chance that the real actual reason that the royal family was like, No,
you can't marry this woman is because she was literally a Nazi
sympathizer,
SYD 23:33
and so was he,
OLIVIA 23:34
and so was he. And so he was like, Oh, my God, perfect for me. Yeah.
Oh, my God. Just terrible. So but yeah,
like 10s of 1000s of papers were found, like in German archives by
Allied forces after the war ended, you know,
and all of them documented the German plans to basically turn Edward
and make him an active aid to the Nazi effort. So it's not great. It's
not a rumor.
SYD 23:58
At this point, you know, it's pretty clear what was happening. But
Edward wasn't the only one
OLIVIA 24:04
Edward and Wallis were
not we're not the only big Nazi sympathizer energy members of the
British Royal Family.
SYD 24:12
Edward had a cousin named Charles Edward
OLIVIA 24:15
goddamnit. Can they come up with more names?
SYD 24:17
I know they need more names. Charles Edward was an important Nazi
official.
OLIVIA 24:21
Well, I hate that I'm absolutely hating that
SYD 24:22
it's because Hitler really loved having a direct tie to the royal
family in
OLIVIA 24:26
Well I'm sure.
I'm sure he loved anything that was bad and led to him having power.
Yeah.
SYD 24:31
And he sent Charles Edward as an envoy to England to butter up Edward
on the whole like, hey, let's do some fascism thing.
OLIVIA 24:38
That's
crazy. So So Charles Edward was a big help in Edward, his cousin,
being like, Oh, actually, I love this whole Nazi thing.
SYD 24:47
And not only that, Charles Edward ran German concentration camps.
OLIVIA 24:53
Oh,
fuck that guy. Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy.
SYD 24:56
He, uh,
and then he was really upset when he wasn't well Welcome back on
British soil,
OLIVIA 25:01
what is wrong with people? What is wrong with anyone?
SYD 25:05
I think the thing we've learned from every episode of this podcast is
when you're treated like you're God's gift to the planet, you are
shocked
OLIVIA 25:12
when any consequences happen. 100% And you're like, Oh, I just did the
worst things anyone could ever do. And now there's appropriate, if not
underwhelming consequences. And I'm like, what?
SYD 25:25
and it keeps you know, and we see it again and again with even Edward
the royal family knew that words beliefs were wrong. They conflicted
with everything they believed in, and yet, they didn't really publicly
shame him.
OLIVIA 25:36
They literally hid it, they spent energy they could have spent on the
war on hiding that Edward was a Nazi sympathizer.
SYD 25:45
Now let's get a little bit closer to home. Right. Okay. Yeah, you
know, the queen. Oh, please
OLIVIA 25:49
don't tell me the Queen's a Nazi
SYD 25:50
No, she's
not a Nazi.
OLIVIA 25:51
I mean, I don't have any specific attachment to the Queen, but I
SYD 25:54
know just be it. You know, rip poor went out, you know, she died. What
are you gonna do? There's a lot of opinions on it. Okay, so she
wasn't, but two of her sisters in law might have been
OLIVIA 26:05
okay, awesome for me. Okay, so
SYD 26:08
we're talking about Prince Phillip. Okay. He had four sisters. And at
least two of them were not great.
OLIVIA 26:15
Okay, well, it's two out of four.
SYD 26:18
Okay, so he had this sister Sophie. She named her kid Adolf, Carl
Adolf. You know, fuck that because she thought Hitler was a charming
guy.
OLIVIA 26:28
Okay, well, we don't even love that for her.
SYD 26:30
Nope. And his sister Cecily, before she and her husband died in a
plane crash. Right. They were both confirmed Nazi Party members.
OLIVIA 26:40
Okay, well, that. That's pretty cut and dry.
SYD 26:43
So Prince Philip. Yeah. Was not even the most racist of his siblings.
OLIVIA 26:47
You know what something? I think sometimes and realize sometimes the
world is bad.
SYD 26:51
Yeah. Now let's fast forward. Yeah, the way we all started kind of
thinking about
and when I say we all I mean people like myself who are not 100%
educated about this because we're up in the United States. And this
isn't something I studied
OLIVIA 27:06
The average
young American person who knows more about pop culture than real
history in the forefront of their brain. Right.
SYD 27:12
I think about Prince Harry dressing up as a Nazi for Halloween in
2005. I think about you know, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, leaving
the royal family because of a lot of shit that went down. Yeah. And
now when you think about that,
OLIVIA 27:28
it's an interesting, interesting context.
SYD 27:31
Yeah, it's interesting to look back and go, Oh, right. Well, this
family didn't just start being kind of racist and kind of not so
great. This is something that's gone back for probably a while.
OLIVIA 27:42
Well, and also just that, you know, with everything that has been
uncovered there's, I'm sure so much that hasn't
I'm sure so many documents that have been burned that have been, you
know, hidden and, and it's just so crazy to look and see, like, oh,
this country that was fighting Germany, half the royal family was
like, down with Germany.
SYD 28:04
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's pretty dark. And it's also kind of makes
you feel really terrible for Meghan Markle.
OLIVIA 28:10
Oh yeah, I mean, I always feel I just generally always feel terrible
for Meghan Yeah, it just makes you will go on record to say.
There's a lot of British media people who say like, oh, yeah, they
compare Meghan Markle to Wallis.
Yeah, they're both American women who the media hated because they,
you know, seduced one of their royals, but it's like, Let's never make
that comparison.
How about because one of them is of a nice lady who's just like an
actress and the other woman is a Nazi?
SYD 28:37
Yeah, it's not good.
OLIVIA 28:39
Let's never make that comparison. Yeah,
SYD 28:41
there was this weird villainizing of Yeah, Meghan Markle, and
comparing her to Wallis who is she not similar to.
OLIVIA 28:46
Yeah, I get that they were both
American women who the British media hated. Yeah, they have nothing
else in common.
SYD 28:54
No. And it's it's pretty wild. So it doesn't actually end here.
OLIVIA 28:58
Yeah, no, this is a lot of the Nazi scandals, but there's so many more
scandals.
SYD 29:02
Yeah,
so we've got a whole nother episode coming up for you about the
Windsor dynasty. And you're gonna be pretty shocked at what we find.
OLIVIA 29:10
Yeah,
it's all their non Nazi related scandals, and there's a lot of there's
so many.
SYD 29:16
So thank
you for listening.
I've been Syd.
OLIVIA 29:18
I've been Olivia
SYD 29:19
and until next time, this has been Dark Dynasties.
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